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Conversation: Reflection raises $2B to be America’s open frontier AI lab, challenging DeepSeek Crunch

A: Hey there! Guess what's the big news today?

B: What is it? I didn't catch anything yet.

A: This new startup called Reflection, founded by ex-Google DeepMind researchers, just raised a whopping $2 billion! Can you believe it?

B: Wow, that sounds amazing! What do they do exactly?

A: They're focusing on autonomous coding agents initially, but now they're positioning themselves as an open source alternative to labs like OpenAI and Anthropic. Kinda like a Western equivalent to Chinese firms like DeepSeek.

B: Sounds interesting! Who are the people behind it?

A: Misha Laskin, who led reward modeling for DeepMind's Gemini project, and Ioannis Antonoglou, who co-created AlphaGo. They've been developing advanced AI systems, so their background is key to their pitch.

B: What's their goal with this huge investment?

A: They want to train massive AI models at scale, using a specific architecture called Mixture-of-Experts (MoEs). Their aim is to stay competitive and avoid being overshadowed by Chinese models like DeepSeek.

B: I see. So it's about maintaining America's position in the tech world, right?

A: Exactly! Misha said if they don't act now, the global standard of intelligence could be built by someone else, not America.

B: Interesting! What do people think about this new mission?

A: American technologists have largely celebrated it. David Sacks, White House AI and Crypto Czar, even posted about it on X. He wants the U.S. to win in this category too.

B: That sounds promising! What's next for Reflection then?

A: They aim to release a frontier language model next year, trained on "tens of trillions of tokens." They plan to use the funds from this latest round to get the compute resources needed to train new models.

B: Sounds like an exciting journey ahead! Let's keep an eye on it then.

A: Definitely! I can't wait to see how Reflection shapes the future of AI.
Summary
Reflection, a new startup led by ex-Google DeepMind researchers Misha Laskin and Ioannis Antonoglou, recently secured a $2 billion investment. Focused on autonomous coding agents, the company aims to become an open source alternative to labs like OpenAI and Anthropic. They plan to use this funding
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URL: https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/09/reflection-raises-2b-to-be-americas-open-frontier-ai-lab-challenging-deepseek/#conversation

Date: Oct. 10, 2025

Notes: 2025-10-10

Created: 2025/10/10 08:20

Updated: 2025/12/08 00:50

Last Read: 2025/10/10 09:18